Better Spinning Reel

mike234 · 09-25-10, 03:28 AM

Want to purchase good spinning reel for my grandson. The one he uses twist line very badly. He does not reel while fish taking drag or when he is hung so know most of line twist is reels fault. Have ordered a Shimano Crucial 6'6" MH rod. Was thinking of a Shimano Stradic reel 2500 or 3000. Need your opinions of what reel to get to reduce line twist. Does not have to be a Shimano. Even young as he is he will bass fish all day and if he catches nothing does not matter, ready to go back the next day so I want him to have a great outfit to fish with.

BigBassin144 · 09-25-10, 09:15 AM

I think you made a great choice in rods. The Crucials are great rods for the money, with an outstanding warranty.

I've used Pflueger, Shimano, Daiwa, and Abu spinning reels. My favorite so far has been the Daiwa Caldia that BPS clearanced this spring. I wouldn't hesitate buy a Tierra or Advantage spinning reel either. If you want to spend more, check out the Daiwa Sol spinning reels.

The Pflueger Supreme is not a bad reel, although I think Daiwa and Shimano have better line management systems. You can get the Supreme XTs on sale at BPS right now since they're bringing out a new Supreme XT soon.

I can't give a fair review of the Abu or Shimano since the Abus I'ved used have all been $30 or so reel. However, despite being as heavy as an outboard, the Soron reels should be nice.

Also, the only shimano I've used is an older model Sahara. I sold not to long after I bought it. However, I think the new Symetre, Saros, and Stradic reels are all good choices.

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BassMoJo · 09-25-10, 09:16 AM

The Shimano Stradic CI4 is nice.

BigBassin144 · 09-25-10, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BassMoJo

stradic ci4 is nice

I wasn't impressed with the CI4. I played with three of them at Cabela's and none of them were very smooth. In fact, the regular Stradic seemed much smoother, and like a much better reel overall to me, even thought he CI4 was so light.

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Cavs1123 · 09-25-10, 09:34 AM

If you want the Shimano just go with the bigger size like the 3000. That should really help with the line twist. But I also have a Daiwa TD-Pro Spinning reel and I havent had a wind knot yet in about 2 months.

Bassboss · 09-25-10, 10:55 AM

I know a guy who uses nothing but shimanos. His favorite is the Sahara. Best band for buck he said! He likes his stradic a lot too, but Given a choice, he said he'd just get another sahara and a decent rod.

Bender · 09-25-10, 12:44 PM

I don't think you can go too wrong with a Symetre or Stradic. I have a few other brands but more Symetres than anything else and have no problems with most of them. On one with rear drag I did have it get hard to reel once, but after lube it has been fine again.

I bought a Pflueger Supreme at the beginning of the year and with a full spool I had line issues with it winding on the outside of the spool. With less line now it doesn't do this but last week I did have a huge birdsnest that had to be cut out. To be fair the line is a super tough 8# fluoro that's not too limp. The reel wasn't a bad purchase at all but I would probably take a Symetre over it.

thekevster · 09-25-10, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bender

I don't think you can go too wrong with a Symetre or Stradic. I have a few other brands but more Symetres than anything else and have no problems with most of them. On one with rear drag I did have it get hard to reel once, but after lube it has been fine again.
I bought a Pflueger Supreme at the beginning of the year and with a full spool I had line issues with it winding on the outside of the spool. With less line now it doesn't do this but last week I did have a huge birdsnest that had to be cut out. To be fair the line is a super tough 8# fluoro that's not too limp. The reel wasn't a bad purchase at all but I would probably take a Symetre over it.

Agreed I have a front drag symetre 3000fj and its a great reel.

You really cant go wrong between a symetre or a stradic it will be a big difference for your grandson either way and he will catch alot more fish and not have to worry about nasty line twist as much.

Rebbasser · 09-25-10, 04:32 PM

Another vote for the Symetre. Great reel that won't break the bank.

islandbass · 09-26-10, 02:22 AM

Another symetre vote. Anything more is nice to have but not necessary.

mike234 · 09-26-10, 08:26 PM

Thanks alot for the information. Just ordered him a Symetre 3000FJ. I think he will be well pleased.

islandbass · 09-28-10, 04:44 AM

Not bad! I did a little checking and learned something that I found shocking. You might know that the 2500 sized shimano is the usual choice for bass anglers and so your decision on the 3000 sized piqued my curiosity. This is what I found out.

The 3000 holds only 30 more yards of line which isn't much more and for your intent, that extra line is a good thing.

Not only that, it possesses 4 more lbs of drag than the 2500. Cool! Not that the 2500's 11lbs of drag is bad. I also wonder if both reels are the same in size with the difference being the size of the spool.

Anyway, here is the kicker although the difference is practically neglible...

The 3000 weighs less than the 2500! Yup, that's right. According to Shimano, the 2500 Symetre weighs 10.1 oz and the 3000 weighs 9.9 oz.

If I buy another Symetre, I'm going with the 3000. It could probably serve me well in my salmon and steelhead fishing too.

thekevster · 09-28-10, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by islandbass

Not bad! I did a little checking and learned something that I found shocking. You might know that the 2500 sized shimano is the usual choice for bass anglers and so your decision on the 3000 sized piqued my curiosity. This is what I found out.

The 3000 holds only 30 more yards of line which isn't much more and for your intent, that extra line is a good thing.

Not only that, it possesses 4 more lbs of drag than the 2500. Cool! Not that the 2500's 11lbs of drag is bad. I also wonder if both reels are the same in size with the difference being the size of the spool.

Anyway, here is the kicker although the difference is practically neglible...

The 3000 weighs less than the 2500! Yup, that's right. According to Shimano, the 2500 Symetre weighs 10.1 oz and the 3000 weighs 9.9 oz.

If I buy another Symetre, I'm going with the 3000. It could probably serve me well in my salmon and steelhead fishing too.

Yea thats why I went with the 3000.
They really are pretty similar in size as well it might just be a bigger spool
like you said.Great reel so far havent had any problems with it.

Vegasspider · 09-28-10, 08:31 PM

With all due respect "playing at the counter" does not really tell you much. I was not sold on them as I like/loved the Stradic mags and was sure nothing could be better. I was lucky enough to get my hands on the C14's back in December and I am now hooked forever. Please see if you can find a way to fish one and I think you will be impressed. The problem is they are so light that unless they are mounted and rigged they move too much on the short rods at BB and when not mounted at all they move all over the place in your hand. Give it a fair test and let me know what you think.

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Originally Posted by BigBassin144

I wasn't impressed with the CI4. I played with three of them at Cabela's and none of them were very smooth. In fact, the regular Stradic seemed much smoother, and like a much better reel overall to me, even thought he CI4 was so light.

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gonefishin3 · 10-06-10, 05:20 PM

If you really want to make. A investment its the quantem energys... great spinning reels.

mike234 · 10-06-10, 07:11 PM

Do not know about the Quantum Energy's but it was a Quantum that was twisting his line so bad. But anyway he has his Symetre on his Crucial rod and it is one great outfit in fact I like to use it myself. I put Trilene 10# XL on it and so far it is working great. We have been out only 1 time but if first trip is any indication this is a great setup.

BigBurlyBass · 10-06-10, 09:39 PM

The Symetre and Sahara are VERY GOOD quallaty, performace, durabillity, and for price! Can't go wrong with Shimanos! I also like Quantums VERY much! my only 2 brands right there for rods and reels!

dave0943 · 10-07-10, 01:22 PM

I am big on Pflueger. I have a President and a President XT. Awesome reels for under a hundred. Even the Trion for around 50.00 is a great reel. I have a Trion for for guests and visiting family. Never have any problems. I also am partial to Abu Sorons. Any one of these are quality reels at a very decent price.

basshunter21 · 10-08-10, 02:16 AM

I love my Sahara, its a great reel and affordable.

IowaBasser · 10-13-10, 11:32 AM

I know you are looking for a spinning reel to prevent line twist. However the reel may not be the problem. A common mistake is the way you put line on a spinning reel. On a bait-casting reel you should put a pencil or something through the spool of the new line and let the spool spin as you wind on the new line. On a spinning reel you should lay the new spool flat on the ground and let the line slip off the side of the new spool.

Here's a link to a short video showing how to correctly spool line on a spinning reel!

tim4081 · 10-13-10, 03:14 PM

I can recommend the Sahara. I've had one for three years now and never had an ounce of trouble. It gets used a tremendous amount....between my son and I probably more than any other reel we have. Smooth drag, casts well, dependable, smooth retrieve....couldn't ask for anything more in a spinning reel.

09-25-10, 03:28 AM	#1
mike234 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Knoxville, Tn Posts: 177	Better Spinning Reel Want to purchase good spinning reel for my grandson. The one he uses twist line very badly. He does not reel while fish taking drag or when he is hung so know most of line twist is reels fault. Have ordered a Shimano Crucial 6'6" MH rod. Was thinking of a Shimano Stradic reel 2500 or 3000. Need your opinions of what reel to get to reduce line twist. Does not have to be a Shimano. Even young as he is he will bass fish all day and if he catches nothing does not matter, ready to go back the next day so I want him to have a great outfit to fish with.

09-25-10, 09:15 AM	#2
BigBassin144 BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 9,463	I think you made a great choice in rods. The Crucials are great rods for the money, with an outstanding warranty. I've used Pflueger, Shimano, Daiwa, and Abu spinning reels. My favorite so far has been the Daiwa Caldia that BPS clearanced this spring. I wouldn't hesitate buy a Tierra or Advantage spinning reel either. If you want to spend more, check out the Daiwa Sol spinning reels. The Pflueger Supreme is not a bad reel, although I think Daiwa and Shimano have better line management systems. You can get the Supreme XTs on sale at BPS right now since they're bringing out a new Supreme XT soon. I can't give a fair review of the Abu or Shimano since the Abus I'ved used have all been $30 or so reel. However, despite being as heavy as an outboard, the Soron reels should be nice. Also, the only shimano I've used is an older model Sahara. I sold not to long after I bought it. However, I think the new Symetre, Saros, and Stradic reels are all good choices. BB __________________ As of June 14, 2014 the members of the BF.com forum have moved to basschat.yuku.com!

09-25-10, 09:16 AM	#3
BassMoJo BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hampstead, MD Posts: 801	The Shimano Stradic CI4 is nice. __________________ This is my Signature there are many like it, but this one is mine.

09-25-10, 09:34 AM	#5
Cavs1123 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bellevue, Ohio Posts: 1,398	If you want the Shimano just go with the bigger size like the 3000. That should really help with the line twist. But I also have a Daiwa TD-Pro Spinning reel and I havent had a wind knot yet in about 2 months. __________________ Tom

09-25-10, 10:55 AM	#6
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	I know a guy who uses nothing but shimanos. His favorite is the Sahara. Best band for buck he said! He likes his stradic a lot too, but Given a choice, he said he'd just get another sahara and a decent rod. __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

09-25-10, 12:44 PM	#7
Bender BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 2,414	I don't think you can go too wrong with a Symetre or Stradic. I have a few other brands but more Symetres than anything else and have no problems with most of them. On one with rear drag I did have it get hard to reel once, but after lube it has been fine again. I bought a Pflueger Supreme at the beginning of the year and with a full spool I had line issues with it winding on the outside of the spool. With less line now it doesn't do this but last week I did have a huge birdsnest that had to be cut out. To be fair the line is a super tough 8# fluoro that's not too limp. The reel wasn't a bad purchase at all but I would probably take a Symetre over it.

09-25-10, 04:32 PM	#9
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,141	Another vote for the Symetre. Great reel that won't break the bank. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

09-26-10, 02:22 AM	#10
islandbass BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA State Posts: 1,783	Another symetre vote. Anything more is nice to have but not necessary. __________________ ARX "If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." Doug Larson (Shimano 2005 Reel Catalog)

09-26-10, 08:26 PM	#11
mike234 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Knoxville, Tn Posts: 177	Thanks alot for the information. Just ordered him a Symetre 3000FJ. I think he will be well pleased.

09-28-10, 04:44 AM	#12
islandbass BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WA State Posts: 1,783	Not bad! I did a little checking and learned something that I found shocking. You might know that the 2500 sized shimano is the usual choice for bass anglers and so your decision on the 3000 sized piqued my curiosity. This is what I found out. The 3000 holds only 30 more yards of line which isn't much more and for your intent, that extra line is a good thing. Not only that, it possesses 4 more lbs of drag than the 2500. Cool! Not that the 2500's 11lbs of drag is bad. I also wonder if both reels are the same in size with the difference being the size of the spool. Anyway, here is the kicker although the difference is practically neglible... The 3000 weighs less than the 2500! Yup, that's right. According to Shimano, the 2500 Symetre weighs 10.1 oz and the 3000 weighs 9.9 oz. If I buy another Symetre, I'm going with the 3000. It could probably serve me well in my salmon and steelhead fishing too. __________________ ARX "If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles." Doug Larson (Shimano 2005 Reel Catalog)

10-06-10, 05:20 PM	#15
gonefishin3 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 227	If you really want to make. A investment its the quantem energys... great spinning reels.

10-06-10, 07:11 PM	#16
mike234 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Knoxville, Tn Posts: 177	Do not know about the Quantum Energy's but it was a Quantum that was twisting his line so bad. But anyway he has his Symetre on his Crucial rod and it is one great outfit in fact I like to use it myself. I put Trilene 10# XL on it and so far it is working great. We have been out only 1 time but if first trip is any indication this is a great setup.

10-06-10, 09:39 PM	#17
BigBurlyBass BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: detroit Posts: 188	The Symetre and Sahara are VERY GOOD quallaty, performace, durabillity, and for price! Can't go wrong with Shimanos! I also like Quantums VERY much! my only 2 brands right there for rods and reels!

10-07-10, 01:22 PM	#18
dave0943 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Iron Mountain, MI Posts: 174	I am big on Pflueger. I have a President and a President XT. Awesome reels for under a hundred. Even the Trion for around 50.00 is a great reel. I have a Trion for for guests and visiting family. Never have any problems. I also am partial to Abu Sorons. Any one of these are quality reels at a very decent price.

10-08-10, 02:16 AM	#19
basshunter21 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Erie, Pa Posts: 266	I love my Sahara, its a great reel and affordable.

10-13-10, 11:32 AM	#20
IowaBasser BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ames, Iowa Posts: 360	I know you are looking for a spinning reel to prevent line twist. However the reel may not be the problem. A common mistake is the way you put line on a spinning reel. On a bait-casting reel you should put a pencil or something through the spool of the new line and let the spool spin as you wind on the new line. On a spinning reel you should lay the new spool flat on the ground and let the line slip off the side of the new spool. Here's a link to a short video showing how to correctly spool line on a spinning reel!

10-13-10, 03:14 PM	#21
tim4081 BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Spring Lake, Michigan Posts: 195	I can recommend the Sahara. I've had one for three years now and never had an ounce of trouble. It gets used a tremendous amount....between my son and I probably more than any other reel we have. Smooth drag, casts well, dependable, smooth retrieve....couldn't ask for anything more in a spinning reel.

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