prespawn lure choice

DadofJolly · 03-07-07, 11:55 AM

Question,
Let's say your in pre-spawn conditions. Water high 50's to 60. Relatively clear water. Your in a classic pre-spawn location. Lets say it's the mouth of a small main lake cove. There is tons of gnarly under water brush – lots of thick stuff, no real "isolated" cover, just lots of it. No grass. What's your first second and third lure choice and why? I know a lot of guys will say a jig. Why is the jig as apposed to a Texas rig plastic always a top choice at this time? Just want some other guys thoughts. My choice would probably be #1 – Jig (not because it always works for me but because I just love fishing one) #2 – suspending jerkbait, #3 – Tex. Rigged tube. Comments?
Thanks.

JB · 03-07-07, 12:38 PM

I'd cover some water with a rattletrap, then slow down to hit isolated or flooded cover with a black pig n jig, also throwing a spinnerbait could be key.

adamchasejones · 03-07-07, 01:17 PM

spinnerbait and if no bites jig

Southern_Angler_#1 · 03-07-07, 06:00 PM

how deep is the water before it gets to the brush... And about how thick is the brush. These are two important factors...

Bassinkid · 03-07-07, 06:51 PM

i would go with a jig with a soft plastic trailer.

adamchasejones · 03-07-07, 07:15 PM

pork will make that jig fall slower than plastic

Rebbasser · 03-07-07, 07:48 PM

A red trap, spinnerbait, and a jig-n-pig.

lizardsrule · 03-07-07, 08:35 PM

1) Fluke, worked fast!
2) Spinnerbait or crankbait.
3) T-rigged plastic, usually a Paca Craw or a Pulse Worm.

I would use these baits due to the fish getting fatter and eating for spawn. If they aren't hitting the faster mvoing baits, then of course the t-rig will get them usually. I prefer jigs with rattles for punching through heavy weeds, and a t-rig for most everything else. I would not worry about running all over the lake if you know the fish are in this area. Just my opinion of course.

Lizards

zooker · 03-07-07, 08:53 PM

trap and a blade.. though tuseday i did get one on a blue/black pnj. -i could see his dorsel fin he was 4.5+ sitting in 8"of water..

zooker

hackattack · 03-07-07, 11:00 PM

1.jig
2.spinnerbait
3.your favorite flippin bait

DadofJolly · 03-08-07, 12:06 AM

<Southern_Angler_#1:
how deep is the water before it gets to the brush... And about how thick is the brush. These are two important factors...">Probably 10-18 feet deep. That seems kinda deep for pre spawn but this is a very deep clear lake. The brush is thick as _ _ _ _! This lake is Lake Alan Henry in West Texas. It is very young and the land was not cleared in any way before it was flooded. There is under water mesquite and cedar trees/shrubs literally every few feet covering this lake in most areas. They range from little 3 or 4 foot shrubs to full 20ft. trees. It was only filled to capacity 2 yrs ago so most of the trees are still very full under water - nothing has had time to rot away. I mean THICK STUFF!!! It's enteresting that some guys list a spinner bait second to a jig. It would seem sensible to start with a searching, faster moving bait and progress to a more pinpoint attack, ie jig or plastic. Do you jig guys fish it pretty fast or are you talking about working it slow for this situation? Great posts Men keep it coming.
Thanks.

hackattack · 03-08-07, 12:12 AM

i'd wim it probably, touching down everyonce in a while.

hackattack · 03-08-07, 12:12 AM

*swim. sorry

DadofJolly · 03-08-07, 12:38 AM

Hackattack,

See now there is something I have never done before. I have never fished a jig as a "swimming jig". I have only flipped them and worked them slow on bottom. Do you just bring it in with a steady retrieve and then stop to let it rest on bottom every once in a while? Do you try to keep it close to the bottom or higher in the water column? Totally new to me.

hackattack · 03-08-07, 01:51 AM

in warmer water a faster retrieve will suffice. Chatterbaits were spawned by this technique i think. i would experiment though, as they may want it just crawling slowly or pretty aggressive. A good trailer for this is a 5" double tail chompers grub. In clear water I would fish a green pumpkin jig on fluorocarbon line. Booyah or manns makes good jigs.
good luck!!

bassfanpa · 03-08-07, 10:13 PM

Spinnerbait, crankbait, and then a jig. At that water temp, they will chase a bait. No use n wasting time in soaking a bait. Make them eat it!

keithdog · 03-10-07, 02:19 PM

Rattlin Rouge, spinnerbait, shallow crankbait and jig-n-pig in that order. I'm going to experiment with a chatterbait this spring though. I think it's slow retrieve worked around shallow cover might be the ticket for those cold water bass up here after ice out.

commanche · 03-10-07, 09:08 PM

i am believer in staying with same lure companys..i am RAPALA user..

use a suspending rapala,then if spawn has started,best lure bar none is LIZARD,6 INCH ONE..

biggest bass i have caught in 45 years in CLEAR WATER,most were caught on a LIZARD..in dirty water,biggest or most was on spinnerbait..

most were caught at midnight to 6 am..i troll a lizard behind my boat at 2 am and catch some real bigones in summer..

pig n jig · 03-10-07, 09:27 PM

1. Bubblegum colored super fluke on 15 lb fluorocarbon line weightless.

2. metallic Red craw colored Spro aruku shad 5/8 oz. rattletrap.The Spro brand trap fishes through heavy cover better than any other trap I have fished.

3. A baby paca craw flipped on a skirtless 3/8 oz. jig with a good weedguard.

A Luhr Jensen sugarshad rattle trap will fish heavy cover well too, but they don't make a red colored trap, Use the spro , or sugarshad on beds as well, these 2 trap brands will sit upright on the bottom.

P N J

lizardsrule · 03-10-07, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commanche

i am believer in staying with same lure companys..i am RAPALA user..

use a suspending rapala,then if spawn has started,best lure bar none is LIZARD,6 INCH ONE..

biggest bass i have caught in 45 years in CLEAR WATER,most were caught on a LIZARD..in dirty water,biggest or most was on spinnerbait..

most were caught at midnight to 6 am..i troll a lizard behind my boat at 2 am and catch some real bigones in summer..

I knew I liked you for some reason rotfl

LIZARDSRULEBASS!!!

Lizards

keithdog · 03-11-07, 05:02 PM

Hey commanche, when you mention trolling a lizard at 2AM, I'm curious as to what exactly is your presentation. On the bottom, or swimming it along the surface? Carolina rig? I agree about lizards at spawning time. A friend of my father when I was a boy used to pay neighbor kids to catch spotted salamanders. He used them in shallow water in the spring and man on man! Did he catch some monsters!!!

Captmikestarrett · 03-12-07, 09:51 AM

1. Short c-rigged lizard
2. Big Power grub with Olsens keeper hook/snagless
3. Ring worm t rigged heavy

Capt Mike

WIbassfisherman · 03-13-07, 11:14 PM

Depending on water clarity, and weather conditions I'd fish 1) Rattle Trap, 2) Spinnerbait, 3) jerkbait, 4) Swimjig HOWEVER, with water that warm and recent occurance of the full moon I'd be up looking for beds as well.

RSAbassboy · 04-29-07, 01:39 PM

1) Kevin Van Dam wild Shiner jerkbait (!!BABY BASS!!)

2) Super Fluke or Super Fluke JR (Baby bass)

3) Texas Rigged Frog- something like a horny toad or YUM's Buzz frog (green pumpkin/smokin' shad etc..)

*stick to natural colours!*

My best lure during the 3 spawning periods is without a doubt KVD's wild shiner in baby bass

C BASS · 12-01-08, 10:55 PM

biggest fish i caught during spawn this season was 7.3 pounds and it was off of a number 5 white split tail grub weighted with a split shot. go figure!

03-07-07, 06:00 PM	#4
Southern_Angler_#1 BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wesson, Mississippi Posts: 39	how deep is the water before it gets to the brush... And about how thick is the brush. These are two important factors... __________________ For all have fallen short of the glory of God.

03-07-07, 07:48 PM	#7
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,142	A red trap, spinnerbait, and a jig-n-pig. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

03-07-07, 08:35 PM	#8
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	1) Fluke, worked fast! 2) Spinnerbait or crankbait. 3) T-rigged plastic, usually a Paca Craw or a Pulse Worm. I would use these baits due to the fish getting fatter and eating for spawn. If they aren't hitting the faster mvoing baits, then of course the t-rig will get them usually. I prefer jigs with rattles for punching through heavy weeds, and a t-rig for most everything else. I would not worry about running all over the lake if you know the fish are in this area. Just my opinion of course. Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

03-07-07, 08:53 PM	#9
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	trap and a blade.. though tuseday i did get one on a blue/black pnj. -i could see his dorsel fin he was 4.5+ sitting in 8"of water.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

03-08-07, 12:06 AM	#11
DadofJolly BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West TX Posts: 47	<Southern_Angler_#1: how deep is the water before it gets to the brush... And about how thick is the brush. These are two important factors...">Probably 10-18 feet deep. That seems kinda deep for pre spawn but this is a very deep clear lake. The brush is thick as _ _ _ _! This lake is Lake Alan Henry in West Texas. It is very young and the land was not cleared in any way before it was flooded. There is under water mesquite and cedar trees/shrubs literally every few feet covering this lake in most areas. They range from little 3 or 4 foot shrubs to full 20ft. trees. It was only filled to capacity 2 yrs ago so most of the trees are still very full under water - nothing has had time to rot away. I mean THICK STUFF!!! It's enteresting that some guys list a spinner bait second to a jig. It would seem sensible to start with a searching, faster moving bait and progress to a more pinpoint attack, ie jig or plastic. Do you jig guys fish it pretty fast or are you talking about working it slow for this situation? Great posts Men keep it coming. Thanks. __________________ I hooked her first!

03-07-07, 11:55 AM	#1
DadofJolly BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West TX Posts: 47	prespawn lure choice Question, Let's say your in pre-spawn conditions. Water high 50's to 60. Relatively clear water. Your in a classic pre-spawn location. Lets say it's the mouth of a small main lake cove. There is tons of gnarly under water brush – lots of thick stuff, no real "isolated" cover, just lots of it. No grass. What's your first second and third lure choice and why? I know a lot of guys will say a jig. Why is the jig as apposed to a Texas rig plastic always a top choice at this time? Just want some other guys thoughts. My choice would probably be #1 – Jig (not because it always works for me but because I just love fishing one) #2 – suspending jerkbait, #3 – Tex. Rigged tube. Comments? Thanks. __________________ I hooked her first!

03-07-07, 12:38 PM	#2
JB BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,655	I'd cover some water with a rattletrap, then slow down to hit isolated or flooded cover with a black pig n jig, also throwing a spinnerbait could be key.

03-07-07, 01:17 PM	#3
adamchasejones BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Memphis, Tn and Hazard, Ky Posts: 86	spinnerbait and if no bites jig

03-07-07, 06:51 PM	#5
Bassinkid BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 103	i would go with a jig with a soft plastic trailer.

03-07-07, 07:15 PM	#6
adamchasejones BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Memphis, Tn and Hazard, Ky Posts: 86	pork will make that jig fall slower than plastic

03-07-07, 11:00 PM	#10
hackattack BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 358	1.jig 2.spinnerbait 3.your favorite flippin bait

03-08-07, 12:12 AM	#12
hackattack BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 358	i'd wim it probably, touching down everyonce in a while.

03-08-07, 12:38 AM	#14
DadofJolly BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West TX Posts: 47	Hackattack, See now there is something I have never done before. I have never fished a jig as a "swimming jig". I have only flipped them and worked them slow on bottom. Do you just bring it in with a steady retrieve and then stop to let it rest on bottom every once in a while? Do you try to keep it close to the bottom or higher in the water column? Totally new to me. __________________ I hooked her first!

03-08-07, 01:51 AM	#15
hackattack BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 358	in warmer water a faster retrieve will suffice. Chatterbaits were spawned by this technique i think. i would experiment though, as they may want it just crawling slowly or pretty aggressive. A good trailer for this is a 5" double tail chompers grub. In clear water I would fish a green pumpkin jig on fluorocarbon line. Booyah or manns makes good jigs. good luck!!

03-08-07, 10:13 PM	#16
bassfanpa BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15	Spinnerbait, crankbait, and then a jig. At that water temp, they will chase a bait. No use n wasting time in soaking a bait. Make them eat it!

03-10-07, 02:19 PM	#17
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	Rattlin Rouge, spinnerbait, shallow crankbait and jig-n-pig in that order. I'm going to experiment with a chatterbait this spring though. I think it's slow retrieve worked around shallow cover might be the ticket for those cold water bass up here after ice out.

03-10-07, 09:08 PM	#18
commanche BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113	i am believer in staying with same lure companys..i am RAPALA user.. use a suspending rapala,then if spawn has started,best lure bar none is LIZARD,6 INCH ONE.. biggest bass i have caught in 45 years in CLEAR WATER,most were caught on a LIZARD..in dirty water,biggest or most was on spinnerbait.. most were caught at midnight to 6 am..i troll a lizard behind my boat at 2 am and catch some real bigones in summer..

03-10-07, 09:27 PM	#19
pig n jig BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Avoca, NY Posts: 3,508	1. Bubblegum colored super fluke on 15 lb fluorocarbon line weightless. 2. metallic Red craw colored Spro aruku shad 5/8 oz. rattletrap.The Spro brand trap fishes through heavy cover better than any other trap I have fished. 3. A baby paca craw flipped on a skirtless 3/8 oz. jig with a good weedguard. A Luhr Jensen sugarshad rattle trap will fish heavy cover well too, but they don't make a red colored trap, Use the spro , or sugarshad on beds as well, these 2 trap brands will sit upright on the bottom. P N J

03-11-07, 05:02 PM	#21
keithdog BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: IN Posts: 8,308	Hey commanche, when you mention trolling a lizard at 2AM, I'm curious as to what exactly is your presentation. On the bottom, or swimming it along the surface? Carolina rig? I agree about lizards at spawning time. A friend of my father when I was a boy used to pay neighbor kids to catch spotted salamanders. He used them in shallow water in the spring and man on man! Did he catch some monsters!!!

03-12-07, 09:51 AM	#22
Captmikestarrett BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Accokeek MD Posts: 3,315	1. Short c-rigged lizard 2. Big Power grub with Olsens keeper hook/snagless 3. Ring worm t rigged heavy Capt Mike __________________ Capt Mike Starrett light tackle guide Potomac River http://www.indianheadcharters.com

03-13-07, 11:14 PM	#23
WIbassfisherman BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hartland, Wisconsin Posts: 151	Depending on water clarity, and weather conditions I'd fish 1) Rattle Trap, 2) Spinnerbait, 3) jerkbait, 4) Swimjig HOWEVER, with water that warm and recent occurance of the full moon I'd be up looking for beds as well. __________________ T-Rexx Lure Co. Prostaff

04-29-07, 01:39 PM	#24
RSAbassboy BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 40	1) Kevin Van Dam wild Shiner jerkbait (!!BABY BASS!!) 2) Super Fluke or Super Fluke JR (Baby bass) 3) Texas Rigged Frog- something like a horny toad or YUM's Buzz frog (green pumpkin/smokin' shad etc..) stick to natural colours! My best lure during the 3 spawning periods is without a doubt KVD's wild shiner in baby bass __________________ Fish tremble when they hear my name!

12-01-08, 10:55 PM	#25
C BASS BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ponca city,ok Posts: 23	biggest fish i caught during spawn this season was 7.3 pounds and it was off of a number 5 white split tail grub weighted with a split shot. go figure!

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