Braid solutions?

CLENSKH · 07-31-07, 07:39 PM

The problem is sometimes I need braid but I never use braid, It always ruins the eyes on my rods, Does no one else have this problem? Or am I overlooking an easy solution?

lizardsrule · 07-31-07, 07:52 PM

The only way it's ruining your guides is they are older guides. 95% of the rod manufacturers now use guides that work fine with braid. Now if you are using you rod to try to pull free of snags, and sawing the braid against the guides it can adversely affect them. I haven't have a guide go bad from using braid for 3 years. Now I have had them go bad from me stepping on them, and bending them wrong. I think that if you try it again, you will be pleasantly surprised with it.

Lizards

FlyRod · 07-31-07, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CLENSKH

The problem is sometimes I need braid but I never use braid, It always ruins the eyes on my rods, Does no one else have this problem? Or am I overlooking an easy solution?

Solution? Better rods with better guides. Sad to say, that is the answer.
Good luck.

FR

bassfisher02 · 07-31-07, 08:14 PM

Lizards and Flyboy pretty much summed it up, I use relatively cheap rods [note that they are made by Shimano and Pflueger] so they are good brands just lower end rods, probably in the 50-70 dollar range. And they hold up fine with braid, no problems with the guides at all as a result of using braid, and I've been using it for years.

Rodman_Rob · 07-31-07, 10:08 PM

I've only had one go bad, but I think it had something to do with the fish that day. We had caught 15-20 dolphin in 40-45 minutes when I decided to pick up my bass rig. After catching another 15 dolphin the eye on the end of my rod popped out. Oh well, sure was fun.

CLENSKH · 07-31-07, 11:01 PM

I use G loomis rods with Fuji guides.. I doubt its my giuides that are crap.

wargoth · 08-01-07, 12:13 AM

the older braids, IIRC were kevlar which tended to chew up the guide eyes, while the newer stuff is spectra and is alot gentler on them. I read this somewhere a bit ago, and it sticks in my mind. Try Powerpro, you'll probably like it.

InEccess · 08-01-07, 12:18 AM

You could always use a higher test Flourocarbon. Apparently, there's some big how-do-you-do about the way it's nearly invisable under the water. You could try that if you're hellbent on not using braid.

Hef · 08-01-07, 11:30 AM

I use G-loomis rods as well, no problem w/ my guides because of braid.

CLENSKH · 08-01-07, 02:22 PM

Hmm.. Ill try using some powerpro.. I have not used braid in a few years because of this. Ill try again see what happens sometimes that heavy mono is just not enough for pitchin for pigs..

BASSITUP · 08-01-07, 04:04 PM

Ive Been Using Powerpro For A While Now And I Love The Texture. The Smooth Casting And Retrieves Are Also Nice

FlyRod · 08-01-07, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodman_Rob

I've only had one go bad, but I think it had something to do with the fish that day. We had caught 15-20 dolphin in 40-45 minutes when I decided to pick up my bass rig. After catching another 15 dolphin the eye on the end of my rod popped out. Oh well, sure was fun.

That cannot be attributed to braid. That was most likely initiated by unintentional abuse, perhaps a fish making a dive near the boat and the tip slapping against the gunnel. At least it was the tip guide and could easily be replaced.

Mmmmmmm...Mahi-Mahi (See: Dorado)

FR

zooker · 08-01-07, 05:57 PM

did you say mahi-mahi thats some good eatin right der..

i use fuji guides on all of my sticks and will eat thru an tip eye in a year with MONO.. i use braid also no problems with it..

zooker

CLENSKH · 08-02-07, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zooker

did you say mahi-mahi thats some good eatin right der..

i use fuji guides on all of my sticks and will eat thru an tip eye in a year with MONO.. i use braid also no problems with it..

zooker

Really? I have a GL3 G loomis I use for Striper/salmon and I catch some big fish using 20lb mono and no eye probs had it for a couple years now.. Hope hey dont go to hell on me.

Rebbasser · 08-03-07, 12:11 AM

CLENSKH, just consider the source

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FlyRod · 08-03-07, 09:23 AM

This can only end badly.

FR

07-31-07, 07:39 PM	#1
CLENSKH BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 116	Braid solutions? The problem is sometimes I need braid but I never use braid, It always ruins the eyes on my rods, Does no one else have this problem? Or am I overlooking an easy solution? __________________ OOOHHHHHHH SOWN!!!!!!!! THATS A 3,4,6,8,12 POUNDER!

07-31-07, 07:52 PM	#2
lizardsrule BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saint Augustine, FL Posts: 7,374	The only way it's ruining your guides is they are older guides. 95% of the rod manufacturers now use guides that work fine with braid. Now if you are using you rod to try to pull free of snags, and sawing the braid against the guides it can adversely affect them. I haven't have a guide go bad from using braid for 3 years. Now I have had them go bad from me stepping on them, and bending them wrong. I think that if you try it again, you will be pleasantly surprised with it. Lizards __________________ There are three types of Snakes I hate 1. Live Snakes 2. Dead Snakes 3. Sticks that look like Snakes. And Gators too!

07-31-07, 08:14 PM	#4
bassfisher02 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 4,765	Lizards and Flyboy pretty much summed it up, I use relatively cheap rods [note that they are made by Shimano and Pflueger] so they are good brands just lower end rods, probably in the 50-70 dollar range. And they hold up fine with braid, no problems with the guides at all as a result of using braid, and I've been using it for years. __________________ Good Fishin'

07-31-07, 10:08 PM	#5
Rodman_Rob BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ocala, FL. 1/2 hour southwest of Rodman Posts: 1,702	I've only had one go bad, but I think it had something to do with the fish that day. We had caught 15-20 dolphin in 40-45 minutes when I decided to pick up my bass rig. After catching another 15 dolphin the eye on the end of my rod popped out. Oh well, sure was fun. __________________ Lizardsrule may not be able to drive a boat, but he can sure put you on the fish!

07-31-07, 11:01 PM	#6
CLENSKH BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 116	I use G loomis rods with Fuji guides.. I doubt its my giuides that are crap. __________________ OOOHHHHHHH SOWN!!!!!!!! THATS A 3,4,6,8,12 POUNDER!

08-01-07, 12:13 AM	#7
wargoth BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Thompson, Ohio Posts: 223	the older braids, IIRC were kevlar which tended to chew up the guide eyes, while the newer stuff is spectra and is alot gentler on them. I read this somewhere a bit ago, and it sticks in my mind. Try Powerpro, you'll probably like it. __________________ -Wargoth

08-01-07, 12:18 AM	#8
InEccess BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: East of Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 227	You could always use a higher test Flourocarbon. Apparently, there's some big how-do-you-do about the way it's nearly invisable under the water. You could try that if you're hellbent on not using braid. __________________ Bass Club '07 season Rookie of the Year runner up. '08 seasons Runner Up. Second overall.

08-01-07, 11:30 AM	#9
Hef BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD Posts: 565	I use G-loomis rods as well, no problem w/ my guides because of braid. __________________ U.S. Navy "The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his" - Gen Patton

08-01-07, 02:22 PM	#10
CLENSKH BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 116	Hmm.. Ill try using some powerpro.. I have not used braid in a few years because of this. Ill try again see what happens sometimes that heavy mono is just not enough for pitchin for pigs.. __________________ OOOHHHHHHH SOWN!!!!!!!! THATS A 3,4,6,8,12 POUNDER!

08-01-07, 04:04 PM	#11
BASSITUP BassFishin.Com Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FT WORTH Posts: 29	Braid Ive Been Using Powerpro For A While Now And I Love The Texture. The Smooth Casting And Retrieves Are Also Nice __________________ IM HOOKED ON FISHING.

08-01-07, 05:57 PM	#13
zooker BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: denton nc Posts: 13,441	did you say mahi-mahi thats some good eatin right der.. i use fuji guides on all of my sticks and will eat thru an tip eye in a year with MONO.. i use braid also no problems with it.. zooker __________________ the godfather.. aml in remission since 7-20-09

08-03-07, 12:11 AM	#15
Rebbasser BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 10,142	CLENSKH, just consider the source. __________________ It's happened to the best of them: John 21:3

08-03-07, 09:23 AM	#16
FlyRod BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,270	This can only end badly. FR

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