Headline from today:

MississippiBoy · 05-06-10, 01:47 PM

Has anyone else seen this? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36981179?GT1=43001

Short version: two highschool boys are told to either take off the American flag t-shirts/bandannas they're wearing, or be suspended, because wearing them on Cinco de Mayo could be "incendiary" and cause fights.
If wearing an American flag causes fights, it's the other person that's guilty of being incendiary, not the wearer. I'm so mad I could spit...

BassinNC · 05-06-10, 01:59 PM

I'm with ya mallen, have to make everone happy but the true blue american.

doc · 05-06-10, 02:16 PM

I seen it, and I must say. It's a sad day in AMERICA when you can't wear an AMERICAN flag on your person. I just don't get it. Did anyone see the Phoenix suns protesting arizonas immigration law with the los suns jersies?

I don't get it, it is politically incorrect to call out ILLEGAL immigrants now.

MIbasser · 05-06-10, 04:09 PM

That's pretty bad. What I don't get is Cinco de Mayo is a MEXICAN holiday celebrating their victory over the French (and Spain). Not an American holiday.

Now, I do think that us American's will find any reason to have a beer or three.......

jasonfish320 · 05-06-10, 04:39 PM

personally, I think it's insensitive and we should reserve our American Flag t-shirts for the 4th of July, but we can only wear them if there's an equal number of British flag t-shirts...because we don't want to discriminate...

Jim80 · 05-06-10, 05:39 PM

I'll call it what it is crap and I would tell those kids parents to hire a good lawyer and go to town on the school . Since when it is wrong to be an American in America and show your patriotism .

Jim

1/4 stick · 05-06-10, 06:05 PM

I'd like to see them tell the Mexicans not to wear any symbols of Mexico on the 4th. The ACLU would be all over that.

WaffleJaw · 05-06-10, 06:26 PM

Yea but these kids were wearing shirts and bandanna's....On Cinco De Mayo.
They were going out of thier way to show american flags on a Mexican holiday.They were asking for trouble.
The report even had comment that the hispanics were offended.

''But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

So yea a nasty fight could have broken out...It would have at my high school.
I think the school went a little overboard,but their only trying to protect the students.

1/4 stick · 05-06-10, 06:33 PM

''But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday."

This aint Mexico.

Not saying them celebrating the holiday and their heritage is wrong. But wearing the US flag isn't either.

"I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July."

I bet they would.

Cavs1123 · 05-06-10, 07:59 PM

Thats really stupid! I think that whoever told em to take em off should be suspended!

Abbeysdad · 05-06-10, 08:32 PM

Lets get real....On the one hand, these boys weren't being patriotic, they were lookin for trouble and dis 'in their Mexican American school mates. On the other hand, the school ain't in Mexico and I've heard this holiday isn't that big of a deal even in Mexico.
Just don't wear a white T shirt on Martin Luther King day!

Jrob78 · 05-06-10, 09:09 PM

Tough one. My take on it is this, if these boys weren't being obnoxious and trying to start trouble they wouldn't have been asked to change clothes. Who pairs their American flag shirt with a flag bandanna? My guess is they were blatantly trying to get a rise out of their classmates. I'm 1000% for patriotism, I'm also for school being a place of learning, not disrespect and disruption.

If these boys were quietly going about their day without making a point to harass Hispanic students then they should have been allowed to wear their flags, if they were being disruptive and confrontational they deserved to be sent home.

bamabassman · 05-06-10, 10:54 PM

Look, i ain't trying to start a fight or nothin. BUT...........THIS IS AMERICA, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. If it is gonna be a crime to wear my country's flag, let me rot in jail or hang me or shoot me. cause if i want to wear it......I WILL. WHEREEVER I WANT, WHENEVER I WANT.

nofearengineer · 05-06-10, 11:05 PM

Listen.....if you love Mexico so damned much you're willing to get into a fight with an American for wearing the U.S. flag on their clothing, you have a really bad attitude problem, and your anti-American a$$ needs to be deported.

Personally, I'd like to drive a tractor trailer through a Cinco De Mayo parade, fast enough that all of the guacamole wouldn't end up spinning my wheels.

1/4 stick · 05-07-10, 02:32 AM

I think the sad part of this situation is that it’s an opportunity to educate the kids that was thrown away in favor of a sad attempt to be politically correct. This could have been used to teach these kids about tolerance. Not just tolerance of the Mexican people and there holiday, but tolerance of the kids who chose to wear the American flag. And tolerance of all U.S. citizens and their heritage.

It could have been a wonderful lesson about freedom of speech and expression, and how it pertains to everyone. Not just the particular group that happens to be the flavor of the day. But it’s been wasted in order to maintain pc, and the result is these U.S. flag wearing kids have been made to appear as racists and trouble makers. Let’s be honest. How many of us weren’t trouble makers at that age? These kids that wore those tee shirts and bandanas have every right to be as proud of their heritage as the others have a right to be proud of theirs.

Perhaps if the school officials had taken the time to use this opportunity, the kids might not be so quick to fight each other over something as stupid as this later in life. In fact, it might give cause for each side to learn about the other’s culture and heritage.

That said, let's all go to Mexico and start popping off fireworks and waving the U.S. Flag in celebration of the 4th of July this year just to see what happens.

That’s just my opinion. I’ll quit preaching for awhile now.

doc · 05-07-10, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbeysdad

Lets get real....On the one hand, these boys weren't being patriotic, they were lookin for trouble and dis 'in their Mexican American school mates.

I know 1 of them, Possibly 2 of them were 1/2 hispanic.

05-06-10, 01:47 PM	#1
MississippiBoy BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ridgeland MS Posts: 3,923	Headline from today: Has anyone else seen this? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36981179?GT1=43001 Short version: two highschool boys are told to either take off the American flag t-shirts/bandannas they're wearing, or be suspended, because wearing them on Cinco de Mayo could be "incendiary" and cause fights. If wearing an American flag causes fights, it's the other person that's guilty of being incendiary, not the wearer. I'm so mad I could spit... __________________ I smell smoke, and I hear sirens. Do you think that's a problem?

05-06-10, 01:59 PM	#2
BassinNC BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: albemarle, NC Posts: 788	I'm with ya mallen, have to make everone happy but the true blue american. __________________ 138 bass in 2K10. Biggest 4LBS 14oz.

05-06-10, 04:39 PM	#5
jasonfish320 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: MAINEIAC Posts: 585	personally, I think it's insensitive and we should reserve our American Flag t-shirts for the 4th of July, but we can only wear them if there's an equal number of British flag t-shirts...because we don't want to discriminate... __________________ "If at first you don't succeed; have another beer"

05-06-10, 05:39 PM	#6
Jim80 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Thomaston CT Posts: 3,862	I'll call it what it is crap and I would tell those kids parents to hire a good lawyer and go to town on the school . Since when it is wrong to be an American in America and show your patriotism . Jim __________________ In memory of Zooker 1/11/73-7/2/2010. You will be sorely missed and never forgotten.

05-06-10, 06:05 PM	#7
1/4 stick BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fayetteville, N.C. Posts: 3,529	I'd like to see them tell the Mexicans not to wear any symbols of Mexico on the 4th. The ACLU would be all over that. __________________ Just a redneck having fun. https://www.youtube.com/user/donaldvlogsify

05-06-10, 02:16 PM	#3
doc BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,134	I seen it, and I must say. It's a sad day in AMERICA when you can't wear an AMERICAN flag on your person. I just don't get it. Did anyone see the Phoenix suns protesting arizonas immigration law with the los suns jersies? I don't get it, it is politically incorrect to call out ILLEGAL immigrants now.

05-06-10, 04:09 PM	#4
MIbasser BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Okemos, MI Posts: 1,447	That's pretty bad. What I don't get is Cinco de Mayo is a MEXICAN holiday celebrating their victory over the French (and Spain). Not an American holiday. Now, I do think that us American's will find any reason to have a beer or three.......

05-06-10, 06:26 PM	#8
WaffleJaw BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas,TX (DFW) Posts: 2,212	Yea but these kids were wearing shirts and bandanna's....On Cinco De Mayo. They were going out of thier way to show american flags on a Mexican holiday.They were asking for trouble. The report even had comment that the hispanics were offended. ''But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday. "I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July." So yea a nasty fight could have broken out...It would have at my high school. I think the school went a little overboard,but their only trying to protect the students. __________________ [nelsoncustomrods.com]

05-06-10, 06:33 PM	#9
1/4 stick BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fayetteville, N.C. Posts: 3,529	''But to many Mexican-American students at Live Oak, this was a big deal. They say they were offended by the five boys and others for wearing American colors on a Mexican holiday." This aint Mexico. Not saying them celebrating the holiday and their heritage is wrong. But wearing the US flag isn't either. "I think they should apologize cause it is a Mexican Heritage Day," Annicia Nunez, a Live Oak High student, said. "We don't deserve to be get disrespected like that. We wouldn't do that on Fourth of July." I bet they would. __________________ Just a redneck having fun. https://www.youtube.com/user/donaldvlogsify

05-06-10, 07:59 PM	#10
Cavs1123 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bellevue, Ohio Posts: 1,398	Thats really stupid! I think that whoever told em to take em off should be suspended! __________________ Tom

05-06-10, 08:32 PM	#11
Abbeysdad BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central NY - Finger Lakes Posts: 1,307	Lets get real....On the one hand, these boys weren't being patriotic, they were lookin for trouble and dis 'in their Mexican American school mates. On the other hand, the school ain't in Mexico and I've heard this holiday isn't that big of a deal even in Mexico. Just don't wear a white T shirt on Martin Luther King day! __________________ Fish now, work later

05-06-10, 09:09 PM	#12
Jrob78 BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4,671	Tough one. My take on it is this, if these boys weren't being obnoxious and trying to start trouble they wouldn't have been asked to change clothes. Who pairs their American flag shirt with a flag bandanna? My guess is they were blatantly trying to get a rise out of their classmates. I'm 1000% for patriotism, I'm also for school being a place of learning, not disrespect and disruption. If these boys were quietly going about their day without making a point to harass Hispanic students then they should have been allowed to wear their flags, if they were being disruptive and confrontational they deserved to be sent home.

05-06-10, 10:54 PM	#13
bamabassman BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cedar bluff, alabama Posts: 15,292	Look, i ain't trying to start a fight or nothin. BUT...........THIS IS AMERICA, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. If it is gonna be a crime to wear my country's flag, let me rot in jail or hang me or shoot me. cause if i want to wear it......I WILL. WHEREEVER I WANT, WHENEVER I WANT. __________________ so many lures, so little time.

05-06-10, 11:05 PM	#14
nofearengineer BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Southwest IN Posts: 5,630	Listen.....if you love Mexico so damned much you're willing to get into a fight with an American for wearing the U.S. flag on their clothing, you have a really bad attitude problem, and your anti-American a$$ needs to be deported. Personally, I'd like to drive a tractor trailer through a Cinco De Mayo parade, fast enough that all of the guacamole wouldn't end up spinning my wheels. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after.

05-07-10, 02:32 AM	#15
1/4 stick BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fayetteville, N.C. Posts: 3,529	I think the sad part of this situation is that it’s an opportunity to educate the kids that was thrown away in favor of a sad attempt to be politically correct. This could have been used to teach these kids about tolerance. Not just tolerance of the Mexican people and there holiday, but tolerance of the kids who chose to wear the American flag. And tolerance of all U.S. citizens and their heritage. It could have been a wonderful lesson about freedom of speech and expression, and how it pertains to everyone. Not just the particular group that happens to be the flavor of the day. But it’s been wasted in order to maintain pc, and the result is these U.S. flag wearing kids have been made to appear as racists and trouble makers. Let’s be honest. How many of us weren’t trouble makers at that age? These kids that wore those tee shirts and bandanas have every right to be as proud of their heritage as the others have a right to be proud of theirs. Perhaps if the school officials had taken the time to use this opportunity, the kids might not be so quick to fight each other over something as stupid as this later in life. In fact, it might give cause for each side to learn about the other’s culture and heritage. That said, let's all go to Mexico and start popping off fireworks and waving the U.S. Flag in celebration of the 4th of July this year just to see what happens. That’s just my opinion. I’ll quit preaching for awhile now. __________________ Just a redneck having fun. https://www.youtube.com/user/donaldvlogsify Last edited by 1/4 stick; 05-07-10 at 06:36 AM.

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