What did I catch?

Panthrosan · 04-04-12, 11:23 PM

I was fishing a drainage collection pool that is fed from 3 streams into a series of large ponds and this guy hit my 4inch Senko. From doing a bit of research it looks like a Green Sunfish in the body coloration and spotting, but it has the red eye and mouth of a Warmouth since it took my whole 4 inch senko. My question is, is a crossbreed possible between these 2 and if so how uncommon are they?

AUFred · 04-05-12, 01:25 AM

I am thinking it is just a warmouth or gargleye as we used to call them.

kennethdaysale · 04-05-12, 07:10 AM

Doesn't look like a cross, just a Warmouth or "rock bass"(notice the rocks in your photo) as the locals call them. Because of their attitude and mouth size they're a frequent by-catch around here.

**note...because of their bulk/shape they make an excellent live bait for trophy bass**** (if you're into that sort of thing)

lilmule · 04-05-12, 10:03 AM

Rock bass,coloration somewhat dependent upon water coloration and or quality,and considered a sport fish in many states thus not legal to use for bait in many states.
My biggest almost measured a legal 12 in for bass in wva and was going to take it in and argue it twas a smallmouth cross if it had touched.

bassboogieman · 04-05-12, 12:13 PM

Rock bass - very agressive little buggerrs they are.

Bassboss · 04-05-12, 12:15 PM

Rock bass.

Catch them suckers all the time. They'll put up a good fight in the river's current, they'll make ya think you've got another smallmouth on until you see em! lol They'll eat 3.5" tubes and 8" worms like nothin else!

bcklash · 04-05-12, 04:58 PM

Around here we call redeyes.

jig fisherman · 04-05-12, 06:36 PM

Looks similar to a green sunfish.

bluebasser86 · 04-05-12, 07:02 PM

Green sunfish. They have lots of different nicknames but that is for sure a green sunfish.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=green...9,r:1,s:0,i:71

Rock bass are more drab colored than green sunfish.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rock+...69&tx=96&ty=58

the pyromaniac · 04-05-12, 08:44 PM

The orange tips on the fins, large mouth, bulky physique, and greenish spots tell me it's a green sunfish.

It's possible that it's got some warmouth in there somewhere...

kennethdaysale · 04-05-12, 08:53 PM

Very often even the experts can't tell the difference. It's generally acknowledged that Warmouth have bigger mouths, thus my vote for warmouth.
Here's an interesting thread and debate among some guys that should know............
http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthread...&Number=124935

Panthrosan · 04-05-12, 10:17 PM

Yeah....all signs pointed me to Green Sunfish except for the HUGE mouth and the Red Eyes. I ran into a park ranger while fishing again and even he said it looked like a combo between a Warmouth and a Green Sunfish. I'm happy either way as it is the first of either/both species I have caught and the fact that it was on a 3/0 hook and a 4 inch senko made it even more memorable.

the pyromaniac · 04-05-12, 11:12 PM

I have caught bunches of warmouth, green sunfish, rock bass, and Roanoke bass on full-size bass lures...

04-04-12, 11:23 PM	#1
Panthrosan BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 106	What did I catch? I was fishing a drainage collection pool that is fed from 3 streams into a series of large ponds and this guy hit my 4inch Senko. From doing a bit of research it looks like a Green Sunfish in the body coloration and spotting, but it has the red eye and mouth of a Warmouth since it took my whole 4 inch senko. My question is, is a crossbreed possible between these 2 and if so how uncommon are they?

04-05-12, 07:10 AM	#3
kennethdaysale BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: rock hill, sc Posts: 2,315	Doesn't look like a cross, just a Warmouth or "rock bass"(notice the rocks in your photo) as the locals call them. Because of their attitude and mouth size they're a frequent by-catch around here. note...because of their bulk/shape they make an excellent live bait for trophy bass** (if you're into that sort of thing) __________________ Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

04-05-12, 12:15 PM	#6
Bassboss BassFishin.Com Premier Elite Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Shawano, WI Posts: 7,761	Rock bass. Catch them suckers all the time. They'll put up a good fight in the river's current, they'll make ya think you've got another smallmouth on until you see em! lol They'll eat 3.5" tubes and 8" worms like nothin else! __________________ If you can't fix it with heavy squats or fish oil, you're probably going to die.

04-05-12, 04:58 PM	#7
bcklash BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Elliston, Va. Posts: 4,372	Around here we call redeyes. __________________ The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. keep us free:

04-05-12, 08:53 PM	#11
kennethdaysale BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: rock hill, sc Posts: 2,315	Very often even the experts can't tell the difference. It's generally acknowledged that Warmouth have bigger mouths, thus my vote for warmouth. Here's an interesting thread and debate among some guys that should know............ http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthread...&Number=124935 __________________ Sometimes you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.

04-05-12, 01:25 AM	#2
AUFred BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Prattville, Alabama Posts: 801	I am thinking it is just a warmouth or gargleye as we used to call them.

04-05-12, 10:03 AM	#4
lilmule BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Buchanan,Tn Posts: 2,685	Rock bass,coloration somewhat dependent upon water coloration and or quality,and considered a sport fish in many states thus not legal to use for bait in many states. My biggest almost measured a legal 12 in for bass in wva and was going to take it in and argue it twas a smallmouth cross if it had touched.

04-05-12, 12:13 PM	#5
bassboogieman BassFishin.Com Super Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Parkesburg, Pa. Posts: 3,762	Rock bass - very agressive little buggerrs they are.

04-05-12, 06:36 PM	#8
jig fisherman BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: south eastern PA Posts: 290	Looks similar to a green sunfish.

04-05-12, 07:02 PM	#9
bluebasser86 BassFishin.Com Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gardner, KS Posts: 605	Green sunfish. They have lots of different nicknames but that is for sure a green sunfish. http://www.google.com/imgres?q=green...9,r:1,s:0,i:71 Rock bass are more drab colored than green sunfish. http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rock+...69&tx=96&ty=58

04-05-12, 08:44 PM	#10
the pyromaniac BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Roanoke, VA, USA Posts: 155	The orange tips on the fins, large mouth, bulky physique, and greenish spots tell me it's a green sunfish. It's possible that it's got some warmouth in there somewhere...

04-05-12, 10:17 PM	#12
Panthrosan BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rockville, Maryland Posts: 106	Yeah....all signs pointed me to Green Sunfish except for the HUGE mouth and the Red Eyes. I ran into a park ranger while fishing again and even he said it looked like a combo between a Warmouth and a Green Sunfish. I'm happy either way as it is the first of either/both species I have caught and the fact that it was on a 3/0 hook and a 4 inch senko made it even more memorable.

04-05-12, 11:12 PM	#13
the pyromaniac BassFishin.Com Active Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Roanoke, VA, USA Posts: 155	I have caught bunches of warmouth, green sunfish, rock bass, and Roanoke bass on full-size bass lures...

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